This is how Russell opens the interview, ”A lot of us feel that whats happened in politics is that there’s these un-elected powerful elites that really control things from behind the scenes not in a conspiratorial way just in an economical way, and those powerful elites have really got their talons into the tory party. For me and for a lot of people who don’t vote , that’s where that frustration emanates from, it certainly isn’t apathy Ed, it’s a sense of what’s the point ? ”



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